How should marketers measure quality and build visibility as discovery changes?
This WinsDay, a Reveting B2B Podcast, episode features Tamika Carlton, vice president of marketing at Bottle Rocket Media, and Guido Tebano, chief marketing officer at Market My Market. With host Jessie Lizak, they explain why lead volume alone is an incomplete measure, how demographic research should shape creative and channel choices, and where brands can build visibility as AI, social platforms, and local discovery change.
Better marketing connects audience evidence to the full customer relationship. Tamika shows why brands need human stories, repeated touchpoints, and useful expertise across more than one platform. Guido connects demographic fit to conversion, retention, lifetime value, local search, and emerging discovery channels. The practical lesson is to understand who a business can serve best, measure the quality and durability of those relationships, and publish credible material wherever that audience evaluates options.
- Rethinking Leads as a Measure of Marketing Success
- Using Demographic Data to Understand Audiences Better
- Building Brand Awareness as AI Changes Marketing
- Navigating ChatGPT, Apple Maps, and the Future of Discovery
What the guests said
These are direct excerpts from the episode transcript. Punctuation, capitalization, filler repetitions, and obvious transcription artifacts were lightly cleaned for readability.
“Be open. Be open to being seen. Be open to telling your story. Be open to delivering your message across a multitude of channels. Like, understand your why and your story and what what expertise you have to share that may be going against the grain, if you will. That's how you get PR features.”
“I think there's an old-school mentality where it was like, you know, quantity, quantity, quantity. But, like, people look at quality of things, too. And kind of looking at, you know, how they convert. Like, do they come back? You know, is the value of that person worth a lot more? So, I think there's a lot of other metrics that we look at, too.”
Official episode notes
In this episode of the Winsday Podcast, host Jessie Lizak sits down with Tamika Carlton, VP of Marketing at Bottle Rocket Media, and Guido Tebano, Chief Marketing Officer at Market My Market, to explore how businesses can adapt their marketing strategies to an increasingly data-driven, AI-powered marketplace. Drawing from their experience in digital marketing, audience research, and brand growth, Tamika and Guido share practical insights on connecting with the right audiences, measuring marketing performance, and building visibility across the platforms where customers are searching.
The conversation explores why businesses should rethink leads as a measure of marketing success, prioritize lead quality and customer lifetime value, and use demographic data to build more effective marketing strategies. Tamika discusses how brands can increase awareness through storytelling, social media, and visibility across multiple platforms, while Guido breaks down emerging opportunities in ChatGPT advertising, Apple Maps, and digital PR. Whether you're a business owner, marketer, or agency leader, this episode offers actionable strategies for standing out in a crowded market, making smarter marketing investments, and staying visible as AI reshapes how people discover businesses.
Main Topics Covered
- Rethinking Leads as a Measure of Marketing Success
- Using Demographic Data to Understand Audiences Better
- Building Brand Awareness as AI Changes Marketing
- Navigating ChatGPT, Apple Maps, and the Future of Discovery
Connect with Tamika Carlton
- Website: https://bottlerocketmedia.net
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamika-carlton-58831216/
- Bottle Rocket Media LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bottle-rocket-media/home/
Connect with Guido Tebano
- Website: https://www.marketmymarket.com
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guido-tebano/
- Market My Market LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/market-my-market/home/
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Connect with Jessie Lizak
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