Which business relationships should remain distinctly human?
This WinsDay, a Reveting B2B Podcast, episode features MaryAnn Pfeiffer, founder and Mailchimp Pro Partner at 108 Degrees Digital Marketing, and Kelci Borges, founder and CEO of The Breakfast Club. With host Jessie Lizak, they explain where email automation helps—and where context, consent, vulnerability, and in-person community create relationships technology cannot replicate.
The answer is not to reject automation. It is to use technology for efficiency while protecting the moments that require human judgment and trust. MaryAnn shows how relevant, permission-based email can extend a relationship instead of treating a list like an audience to blast. Kelci explains why intentional rooms, guided conversation, and genuine peer support make community valuable precisely because people need to feel seen, heard, and understood.
What the guests said
These are direct excerpts from the episode transcript. Punctuation, capitalization, filler repetitions, and obvious transcription artifacts were lightly cleaned for readability.
“Better email is something that is contextually relevant to someone. It is timing relevant to someone. It respects what they signed up on your list to get and want to receive. And maybe if you're really good at it, it kind of anticipates where they're going to go in their customer journey in the future.”
“The relationships are what fuel the community, and they are the thing that AI cannot replace. Creating an environment where the relationships can be real and raw and the women can get vulnerable in person—we do that by doing guided networking at our regular signature Breakfast Club event.”
Official episode notes
AI can automate more of marketing than ever.
But it cannot replace every relationship that makes a business valuable.
That is the idea behind our next WinsDay conversation.
Jessie Lizak is joined by MaryAnn Pfeiffer, Founder & Mailchimp Pro Partner at 108 Degrees Digital Marketing, and Kelci Borges, MBA, Founder & CEO of The Breakfast Club. We’ll be looking at two areas that are becoming more important as technology changes how businesses communicate. Email is still one of the strongest tools for nurturing leads and building relationships, but the way businesses use it has to evolve. And community is becoming more valuable precisely because authentic human connection is difficult to automate.
We’ll get into:
1. Rethinking Email Before Lead Nurturing Breaks
2. Building Movements Beyond Traditional Networking Events
3. Strengthening Brand Relationships Through Better Email
4. Building Communities AI Cannot Replace
The bigger question is this: Which relationships should businesses automate, and which ones become more valuable when they remain distinctly human?
If you work in sales, marketing, growth, community, or brand, this is a conversation worth joining.
Connect with MaryAnn Pfeiffer
- Website: https://www.108degrees.com
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryannpfeiffer/?isSelfProfile=false
- 108 Degrees LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/108-degrees-marketing/
Connect with Kelci Borges
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelcidouglas/?isSelfProfile=false
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Connect with Jessie Lizak
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