What can modern marketing no longer ignore?
This WinsDay, a Reveting B2B Podcast, episode features Jody Flournoy, co-founder of Scanley, and Keren Unrad Rosenblum, founder and fractional CMO of PinkLight Marketing. With host Jessie Lizak, they explain how customer research, AI-search visibility, conference follow-up, expert video, and a broader company voice can turn attention into measurable business growth.
Modern marketing can no longer treat visibility as revenue, event attendance as ROI, or a founder’s personal effort as a scalable distribution system. Jody shows how search behavior and AI recommendations reveal demand while live video creates reusable expertise. Keren connects event strategy and attribution to pipeline, then explains why companies need repeatable marketing beyond the founder’s network. The practical lesson is to build a system that captures attention, follows through, and keeps publishing without making the founder the only engine.
- Building brand visibility in AI
- Measuring conference ROI for lead generation
- Turning podcasts and video into pipeline
- Why founder-led marketing stops scaling
What the guests said
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“I'd still say that you should do founder marketing even if it's not scaling. Do things that make it more scalable, like we're doing right now: doing a lot of video stuff or doing a podcast for an hour and getting a bunch of clips from it.”
“Eventually that well runs dry, and they need to go out to the larger audience and raise awareness amongst their ICP in other ways. That's where things like conferences come in, things like thought leadership on LinkedIn, email outreach, and cold outreach.”
Official episode notes
In this episode of the Winsday Podcast, host Jessie Lizak sits down with Jody Flournoy, Co-Founder of Scanley, and Keren Unrad Rosenblum, Founder & CMO of PinkLight Marketing, to explore what modern marketing can no longer ignore. From AI visibility and customer research to conference strategy and founder-led content, Jody and Keren share practical insights for turning attention into measurable business growth.
The conversation explores how businesses can anticipate customer needs by paying attention to search behavior, keyword demand, and emerging AI-driven buying habits. Jody and Keren also discuss how to measure conference ROI beyond simply counting leads, why smaller events and side gatherings can sometimes outperform expensive trade shows, and how podcasts, video, and employee-driven content can create scalable distribution. They also examine why founder-led marketing eventually hits a ceiling and how companies can build systems, teams, and content strategies that extend the founder's voice without requiring them to do everything themselves.
Main Topics Covered
- Building brand visibility in AI
- Measuring conference ROI for lead generation
- Turning podcasts and video into pipeline
- Why founder-led marketing stops scaling
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Connect with Keren Unrad Rosenblum
- Website: https://pinklightmarketing.com/en-us/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keren-unrad-rosenblum/?isSelfProfile=false
- PinkLight Marketing LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pinklight-marketing/home/
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Connect with Jessie Lizak
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